Due to obvious superiority of religious organizations on matters of moral guidance (2000 year of it), it is imparative to have a parrallel non-religious moral guideline. The christian moral guideline which is the most prevalant was gotten from years of debate and politics by kings and historical figures of christianity using the church doctrine and jewish sources as a base. It is clear that moral guideline derived from discussion and debate by normal people for normal day to day usage using facts, analysis and critical thinking is a better alternative, however most people are unaware or unwilling to consider secular humanism, a discipline dedicated principally to the study of ethics and ethical stances without religious influence. This is not an uncommon trait in today's atheist community, causing many atheist to feel as if there is no ethical guidance available for them. However moral guidance without theism does exist in todays world and has existed for about a century and a half with a considerable population all around the world. The only difference to the converted atheist is that it has been deemed by people as a study not a discussion, commonplace in universities and other higher learning facilities but not as integrated to daily life of the common man as many religious institutions are! I personally would like a scientific humanistic discussion in my daily,weekly or monthly routine, maybe a television show, radio talk show or even blog entry discussing these matters. I am not implying the absence of these debates happening in the world, they are indeed happening! I am saying they are not common in most people daily life either due to lack of access or unavailability and this should not be so.